Monday, 3 November 2025

Property vs Shares - which is better over 30 years.

This is a common question often asked and the answer isn't clear or easy.
I think the answer lies with the person asking the question.

If you are a self motivated & disciplined saver I think Equities are the answer.
If you need to be forced to save, getting a mortgage is probably the best way to go.
The bank will force you to make the 3K-4K deposits per month which is standard these days.

These are the current figures (2025):

A $500,000 mortgage typically results in monthly repayments between $2,850 and $3,400+ at current Australian interest rates (approx. 5.5%–7%) over 30 years. Lower rates near 4% bring payments down to roughly $2,387, while higher rates significantly increase them.
Typical $500k Monthly Repayments (30 Years, Principal & Interest):
5.5% Interest Rate: Approx. $2,839 per month.
6.0% Interest Rate: Approx. $2,998 per month.
6.5% Interest Rate: Approx. $3,160 per month.
7.0% Interest Rate: Approx. $3,327 per month

I asked Chat GPT this question:

"compare a 500k deposit + 500K mortgage on a australian home (monthly repayments between $2,850 and $3,400+ at current Australian interest rates (approx. 5.5%–7%) over 30 years) vs the same in australian shares (500K initial investment + 3000 per month top up over 30 years)"

This was it's response:

Now we’re comparing apples-to-apples with capital on both sides, which is much more interesting:

  • Property: $500k deposit + $500k mortgage
  • Shares: $500k upfront + $3,000/month
  • Time horizon: 30 years

I’ll walk through this cleanly and then give you the real-world conclusion.


πŸ“Š Key assumptions (based on real Australian data)

  • Australian shares: ~9–10% p.a. long-term
  • Property:
    • ~5–6% capital growth
    • ~7–9% total return incl. rent (before costs)

🏠 Scenario A — Property

Inputs

  • $1M property
  • $500k loan
  • ~$3,000/month repayments
  • 30 years

πŸ’° Total cash invested

  • Deposit: $500k
  • Mortgage payments: ~$1.1M
    πŸ‘‰ Total out-of-pocket ≈ $1.6M

πŸ“ˆ Property value after 30 years

  • 5% growth → $4.3M
  • 6% growth → $5.7M
  • 7% growth → $7.6M

🧾 Net wealth

Mortgage is fully paid off:

πŸ‘‰ Final wealth ≈ $4.3M – $7.6M


⚠️ Reality check (VERY important)

Property returns are not clean:

  • Stamp duty (~$40–50k)
  • Maintenance (~1–2%/yr)
  • Insurance, rates
  • Selling costs

πŸ‘‰ These can reduce returns by 1–2% per year, which is massive over 30 years


πŸ“ˆ Scenario B — Shares

Inputs

  • $500k upfront
  • $3,000/month for 30 years
  • Total invested = $1.58M (almost identical to property)

πŸ’° Future value

At different return levels:

  • 7% → $5.9M
  • 8% → $7.5M
  • 9% → $9.6M
  • 10% → $12.4M
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ScenarioPropertyShares
Total invested~$1.6M~$1.58M
LeverageYesNo
Expected return~6–8% net~8–10%
Final wealth$4.3M–$7.6M$5.9M–$12.4M
RiskConcentratedDiversified
LiquidityLowHigh
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Now lets add dividends vs rent.
Include rental income vs dividends
This is the missing piece that makes the comparison actually realistic.

Now we’ll include:

  • 🏠 Rental income (property)
  • πŸ“ˆ Dividends (shares)

And compare total return properly.


🏠 Scenario A — Property (with rent)

Assumptions (typical Australia)

  • Property value: $1M
  • Rental yield: 3–4%
  • Growth: 5–6% p.a.
  • Costs: ~1.5–2% p.a. (maintenance, rates, insurance, vacancy)

πŸ’° Rental income

  • Gross rent: $30k–$40k/year
  • Costs: ~$15k–$20k/year

πŸ‘‰ Net rent: ~$10k–$20k/year initially

Important:

  • Rent grows over time (inflation + demand)
  • By year 30 → could be ~$40k–$80k/year net

πŸ“ˆ Total return breakdown

Property total return ≈

  • Capital growth: 5–6%
  • Net rental yield: ~1–2% after costs

πŸ‘‰ Total ≈ 6–8% p.a.


πŸ’° Final outcome (30 years)

  • Property value: $4.3M – $5.7M (5–6%)
  • Plus rental income accumulated (if reinvested): adds ~$0.5M–$1.5M

πŸ‘‰ Total effective wealth: ~$5M – $7M


πŸ“ˆ Scenario B — Shares (with dividends)

Assumptions (Australian market)

Using something like the S&P/ASX 200 Index:

  • Dividend yield: ~4%
  • Growth: ~5–6%
  • Total return: ~9–10% p.a.

πŸ’° Dividends

Year 1:

  • $500k × 4% = $20k/year

Over time:

  • Dividends grow with market (~5–6%)

By year 30:

  • Annual dividends ≈ $150k–$300k/year

πŸ” Reinvestment effect (this is huge)

If dividends are reinvested:

πŸ‘‰ They drive ~50%+ of total returns


πŸ’° Final outcome (30 years)

With:

  • $500k upfront
  • $3k/month
  • 9–10% return

πŸ‘‰ Portfolio value:

  • $9M – $12M

Breakdown:

  • Capital: ~$6M–$8M
  • Dividends compounding: ~$3M–$4M

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Negative Gearing vs Franking Credits.
This is an after-tax comparison (franking credits vs negative gearing).
This is where the comparison gets real, because Australia’s tax system materially changes outcomes.

I’ll compare:

  • 🏠 Property with negative gearing → later positive gearing
  • πŸ“ˆ Shares with dividends + franking credits

Using realistic Australian assumptions.


πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί Key tax concepts (quickly)

Shares → Franking credits

Using something like the S&P/ASX 200 Index:

  • Dividends are often fully franked
  • Company already paid 30% tax
  • You get a tax credit for that
  • Result: higher effective income, especially if your tax rate <30%

Property → Negative gearing

  • Early years: losses (interest > rent)
  • Loss reduces your taxable income → tax refund
  • Later: becomes positively geared → taxable income

🏠 PROPERTY — After-tax reality

Early years (negative gearing phase)

Typical:

  • Rent: ~$30k
  • Costs + interest: ~$40k–$45k
    πŸ‘‰ Loss: ~$10k–$15k

If you're on a 37% tax rate:

πŸ‘‰ Tax refund: $3.7k–$5.5k/year

✔️ Helps cash flow
❌ But you're still losing money overall


Later years (positive gearing)

Once rent rises and loan shrinks:

  • Rent: ~$60k–$80k
  • Costs: ~$20k
    πŸ‘‰ Profit: ~$40k–$60k

Tax:

  • At 37% → $15k–$22k tax/year

Capital gains tax (CGT)

If investment property:

  • 50% CGT discount after 12 months

Example:

  • Gain: $4M
  • Taxable: $2M
  • Tax ≈ $740k (at 37%)

🧾 Property after-tax summary

  • Tax benefits early: moderate
  • Tax drag later: significant
  • Big CGT bill at the end

πŸ‘‰ Net effect:

Tax reduces returns by ~1–2% per year over long term


πŸ“ˆ SHARES — After-tax reality

Dividends + franking

Example:

  • Dividend yield: 4%
  • Fully franked

On $500k:

  • Cash dividend: $20k
  • Franking credit: ~$8.6k
  • Grossed-up income: ~$28.6k

Tax impact

If tax rate = 37%:

  • Tax on $28.6k = ~$10.6k
  • Minus franking credit ($8.6k)

πŸ‘‰ Tax payable: ~$2k only


If tax rate <30%:

πŸ‘‰ You actually get a refund


Capital gains (shares)

  • Same 50% CGT discount
  • BUT:
    • You control when to sell
    • Can spread gains across years

πŸ‘‰ Much more tax flexibility than property


🧾 Shares after-tax summary

  • Dividends: tax-efficient
  • Franking credits: huge advantage
  • CGT: controllable

πŸ‘‰ Net effect:

Tax drag closer to 0.5–1% per year


⚖️ AFTER-TAX COMPARISON

FactorPropertyShares
Early tax benefit✅ Negative gearing❌ None needed
Ongoing tax❌ High (rent taxed)✅ Reduced via franking
CGT flexibility❌ Low (sell all at once)✅ High (sell gradually)
Tax efficiency❌ Moderate✅ High
Net return after tax~5–6%~7–9%

🧠 The big insight

πŸ‘‰ Negative gearing is often overrated

It:

  • Reduces losses
  • But doesn’t create profit

You’re still:

Spending $1 to get ~$0.37 back


πŸ‘‰ Franking credits are underrated

They:

  • Boost income significantly
  • Reduce or eliminate tax
  • Compound over time

πŸ”₯ What this does to your original comparison

Before tax:

  • Property: ~6–8%
  • Shares: ~9–10%

After tax:

  • Property: ~5–6%
  • Shares: ~7–9%

πŸ‘‰ The gap actually widens in favour of shares


🏁 Final conclusion

After tax (including negative gearing and franking credits), shares are significantly more tax-efficient and typically deliver higher net returns than a leveraged investment property.


⚠️ One exception (very important)

If the property is your PPOR (home you live in):

  • ❌ No negative gearing
  • No capital gains tax EVER

πŸ‘‰ That is a massive advantage

In that case:

Property can outperform shares purely due to CGT exemption




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Final Take Home Thoughts:

If you go the shares path ... this assumes that you will be making $3000 deposits into shares even when you don't need to.
You will possibly want to enjoy your life a bit more that those mortgages so your final figure will probably be less.... but then life is meant to be enjoyed , esp when you are young.
The lack of leverage is a blessing and a curse. It reduces the upside & also the downside.
I don't like debt so I think of it more as a plus.

If you are the sort of person who likes to go shopping every time you get a pay rise then get a mortgage.
The bank will be your savings enforcer.



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